Hennessy's View

It doesn’t get any further right wing than Mein Kampf, but the other books mentioned mainly have a left bent.

MKUltra ringing any bells for you guys?

hahaha yes, he is ultra left and socialist, but tries to kill a person from the party that is closer to the left LOL nice try!

You are so mistaken if you are trying to align Hitler with rightwing Americans. It shows your lack of understanding of the matter. Hitler was a socialist. He was also a facist (as in a rightwing European).

fas·cism   /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ –noun
1.(sometimes initial capital letter)a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2.(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
3.(initial capital letter) a fascist movement, esp. the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.

“Communist” Russia was a fascist state. All these were governments formed by socialist groups. Some called themselves Communists, some called themselves Socialists, and some called themselves Progressives.

The tea party–at least in St. Louis–is opposed to “big brother-esque” government programs like a National Internet ID numberthat Barack Obama seems to favor.

It is the left, not the right, that uses tax policy to mold behavior. I have pushed the flat tax since Reagan’s first administration (Jack Kemp was my hero). Democrats, on the other hand, use tax policy to wage their class warfare.

I’d go on, but what’s the point? Taking your arguments seriously would be to insult your intelligence.

The shooter is highly anti-government. If anything, he’s an anarchist which does not by any definition fit with either traditional American party. Now as to Catie Parker, we should all bow to a random high-schooler’s understanding of political theory, right? No doubt the kid is downright crazy and rather disturbed. It’s only logical to draw a line between a shot democrat and a republican who put crosshairs on her. It was a mistake, but one any member of the other side would have made just as quickly.

You seemed to miss the main points of the argument above.
“family values” – check
illegal abortion – check
extreme nationalism – check
mistrust of foreigners – check
excessive spending on military – check
tax cuts – check (the words “model” and “mold” are different, btw. It means that “ideal” – or large, heterosexual – families got tax cuts)

You debate only one of the points, governmental intrusion, as being something the “Tea Party” doesn’t believe in. So lets see, that’s 6 out of 7? Oh, but wait, you tack on a little cop-out at the end there. Good job.

P.S. The flat tax is a load and is only fair if all other prices are “flattened” into fixed percentages of income. Also, Reagan legalized abortion in California. Most “Tea Partiers” today would sh!t themselves rather than vote for a soulless, hollywood baby-killer, yet now they worship him. Go figure.

Ummm. . .

“Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany’s bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism.”

(Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.)

Now THAT sounds like 21st century American conservatism to me.

How do you define “excessive?” What is the appropriate amount of nationalism? What do you mean by “family values?” By listing policies and announcing “check,” you might impress a professor who’s predisposed to your views, but you’re not actually saying anything. What’s the yardstick? How similar are my positions on that yardstick to the 3rd Reich’s. How many planks in the DNC’s platform would fit nicely within Nazi Germany’s? How many actions of Barack Obama’s perfectly reflect Germany’s industrial policy highlighted int he quote above?

Finally, you are correct on your definition of classical liberalism. But I think Knighthawk was using the term “classical” casually, as in “that goal was classic Gretzky.”